What if Stranger Things was less fun, more desaturated, explicit, and German? Ivan & Red talk Netflix’s Dark.
You guys, the issue of every character on Dark looking the same gets way, way worse as you encounter different actors playing the same characters at different ages, and characters crossing back-and-forth between multiple different time-periods. There’s eventually a classic red string map showing photographs of most of the characters at each age, and there are charts online showing who’s who and how they’re all related. You need multiple fucking charts to watch this show! It’s ridiculous.
It’s also very convenient how all of the time-jumping conveniently skips over all of them Nazi shenanigans. It’s as if it takes place in an alternate reality in which WWII never happened. Ultimately, the show is egregiously ethnocentric, mono-cultural, and historically revisionist. I get that many Germans may be tired of rehashing WWII, but to completely erase it as being utterly insignificant in the grand metaphysical sweep of space and time seems dubiously self-exonerating and negligent.
Dear iVAN & red
lONGTIME LISTENER FROM gERMANY HERE; STARTED BACK IN THE dAY WHEN got WAS NEW AND HAVE RECENTLY SWITCHED TO RELIGIOUSLY LISTENING TO BUNKER POLITICS - WITHOUT DOUBT YOUR MAJOR PODCASTING ACHIEVEMENT; FOR WHICH YOU WILL BE REMEMBERED EVEN IN THE POST-APOCALYPTIC FUTURE WE SOON WILL ENTER:
IT SEEMS GERMAN AND AMERICAN CULTURE ARE MUCH MORE DIFFERENT THAN I THOUGHT LISTENING TO YOU I GOT THE IMPRESSION I LIVE IN A VERY STRANGE COUNTRY, WITH FUNNY PEOPLE AND BAD WEED.
tHE BAD wEED STUFF YOU GOT RIGHT; AND SADLY; THAT IS THE END OF IT:
I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS ONE THING - THERE ARE NOT AS MUCH PEOPLE OF COLOUR IN GERMANY AS ARE IN THE US- ONE PER CLASS SEEMS APPROPRIATE - UNTIL 2015 THAT IS; WHEN GERMANY WELCOMED OVER 1 mILLION REFUGEES FROM AFRICA.
( AND TO THE COMMENTER ABOVE: THE NAZI STUFF IS DEFINITELY ADDRESSED WHEN THE SERIES GOES TO THE 50S; BUT IT’S SUBLIME; EVERY GERMAN INSTANTLY RECOGNIZES THE EX_NAZIS PORTRAYED THERE; FOR EXAMPLE THE POLIEMAN.)
THE MAIN OBJECTIONS GEMANS HAVE TO AMERICANS IS THAT WE THINK YOU ARE A LITTLE PLAIN; SIMPLE AND EGOCENTRIC; AND YOU DID NOTHING HERE TO DEFY THESE PREJUDICES.
oF COURSE I WILL BE CONTINUE LISTENING TO YOU; I JUST FELT COMPELLED TO ANSWER; DON’T REALLY KNOW WHY, I WISH WE UNDERSTOOD EACH OTHER BETTER. WE HAVE TO TRY HARDER:
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