Doug Liman’s foundational deep cover superspy thriller The Bourne Identity has truly been burned when the rights have been sold to the USA Network as Treadstone, and it’s time for Ivan and Red to investigate. They talk Hustlers, Doug Liman’s WILD career, the Disney+ twitter movie dump, and and what it exactly it looks like when a storied secret government program resurfaces on Basic Cable.

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Different Showrunner, different cast, completely different story, same great Terror!  Author Maggie Tokuda-Hall joins Ivan and Red to discuss the second season of the horror drama anthology, AMC’s The Terror Infamy, which moves from 19th ships to World War II era Japanese internment camps in California.

You can Pre-Order Maggie’s upcoming book The Mermaid, the Witch, and the Sea on Indiebound, Books Inc, or Amazon.

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In light of the Phoebe Waller-Bridge vehicle winning Emmys for Outstanding Comedy Series, Outstanding Lead Actress in a Comedy Series, and pretty much every other award, it was time for Ivan to watch Fleabag. Ivan and Red talk about emotions in comedy, our view of Obama in 2019, and the best new comedy show of the last 10 years.

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There’s no more high of a brow meeting an extremely low brow than Danny McBride’s The Righteous Gemstones. From the creative coven that brought you Eastbound & Down and Vice Principals comes Jesse Gemstone, the best Danny McBride character in years. Ivan and Red talk John Goodman, establishing the higher ground, churches as startups, and the best way to handle a ransom exchange.

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We dip back into Prime Video with Undone. From the creator of Bojack Horseman comes this gorgeous and intense show which may or may not have time travel. Ivan and Red talk rotoscoping, the MCU, unlivable destinations, and the perfect casting of Bob Odenkirk.

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Should you watch Amazon’s Carnival Row? On one hand it’s *the* most promoted show since NBC’s Whitney, on the other hand a gritty reboot of Tinkerbell is a big promise. Ivan and Red talk prestige fantasy, networks scrambling to replace HBO, the necessary amount of force to life a naked man by his extremities, and the intrigue of a man in a bowler

Make sure and check out the Official Carnival Row store and get your t-shirt with a hat on it.

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On Becoming a God in Central Florida is a good ass show and worth seeking out even in this, The Golden Age of Television! Ivan and Red the future of every actor getting their own prestige television show, Central Florida, Multi Level marketing, the transformative nature of tuxedos, and the early 90s as a “period”.

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Perpetual Grace, LTD on *checks notes* Epix is the SECOND great Steven Conrad (creator of Patriot) show we’ve covered and somehow he found an even more obscure platform!!! Ivan and Red talk Jimmi Simpson, Ben Kingsley, completely original accents, and this new future where one prestige drama will be produced per child.

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Swamp Thing on *checks notes* DC Universal dared to ask “what if we rebooted the grossest Super Hero”. Ivan and Red talk a bit more of “The Boys”, alliterative comic book names, and the most disgusting noises you can make for a television show.

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The Boys is an Amazon Prime production that dares to ask what if a television show had a special effects budget fronted by Meg Ryan & Dennis Quaid’s Love Child. Ivan and Red discuss your girl getting smushed, surprising accent choices by Simon Pegg and Karl Urban, and the upsetting removal of The Chrysler Building.

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